Why can you see the sun and the moon at the same time?

Researcher
Professor Orsola De Marco
Date
26 September 2019
Faculty
Faculty of Science and Engineering

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Professor Orsola De Marco from Macquarie University's Department of Physics and Astronomy explains.

The answer to this question is ultimately “why not”. The moon is super bright when it's suitably illuminated by the Sun, so even during the day it can be easy to see.

A view of the sun and the moon over a beach

Double delight: The moon is visible nearly every day in daylight, except for when the moon is too close to the sun, explains De Marco.

So, here is how it works. The Earth spins on its axis once a day and rotates around the Sun once a year, that we all know. However, from our point of view on Earth, it is the Sun that orbits us once a day, right?! Because of that, we see the Sun rise from the east and set in the west. And there is the small additional complication that the Earth's rotational axis is not perpendicular to its orbital plane around the Sun, it is instead inclined at approximately 23 degrees. This is, by the way, what gives us our seasons.

Now, let’s come back to our main topic: the Moon by day. The Moon is a rock. It has no light of its own and the reason we see it is that it reflects the Sun's light. The Moon revolves around the Earth approximately once every 28 days.

Another fact is that the Moon orbits on a plane that is almost aligned with the orbital plane of the Earth around the Sun. This fact is not too important to understanding the Moon by day, but it has all kinds of nice implications.

One is that if the Moon orbited exactly on the same plane as the orbit of the Earth around the Sun, we would get one solar eclipse and one lunar eclipse per month. This is because once per lunar revolution the Moon would pass exactly between the Earth and the Sun (resulting in a Solar eclipse for some of Earth’s citizens) and pass exactly behind the Earth and the Sun, such that the Earth would cast its own shadow on the Moon (and all Earth’s citizens on the side of the world facing the Moon would see a lunar eclipse). But once again, this factoid is not too relevant to the Moon by day.

We are sitting on a speck of dust in the large Universe. Surely we should pay more attention to what's out there!

The lunar orbit just means that the relative position of the Moon and Sun in the sky changes over the course of approximately a month. They are completely independent of one another. Sometimes they are close to one another in the sky; sometimes they are at opposite sides of the Earth.

They literally don’t care whether they are near or not (note: the Sun and Earth are never physically near one another. When I say “near” I mean near from our vantage point looking up at the sky).

Let’s think of it this way. Imagine that your head is the entire Earth. You are also holding a mirror in your hand, with your arm outstretched. You can imagine that, right? Now switch on a bedside light a few meters away and turn away from the light. With your mirror stretched out in front of you, angle it so that you see the light reflected in it, can you? You just need to make sure that your head is not exactly between the light and the mirror (that is called an eclipse.).

If your head is not exactly in the way, then you can find a way to see the light behind you, reflected in the mirror. This is the situation where the Sun - the light - is behind you so that it is day for the people living on the back of your head, and the Moon, the mirror, reflects the light of the Sun so that you, on the front of your head, can see the Moon. The back of your head is in daylight, and the dwellers there see the Sun high in their sky, while you, at the front of your head see the Moon in the night sky. I should add: this is full Moon for you.

Lunar phases

Lunar calendar: The phase of the Moon is the shape of the directly sunlit portion of the Moon as viewed from Earth.

But you asked me why we see the Moon in the day time! I know! So now, turn around so that the light bulb is not directly in front of you, but kind of a little to your left, in such a position that you can see it better with your left eye than your right eye.

However, you can argue that your face is still in daylight because you can see the light bulb. You are still holding the mirror in front of you, yes? Now angle the mirror so that you can see the light bulb reflected in it. You are going to have to angle that mirror quite a bit, but you can do it. Now you can see the light bulb AND you can see the reflection of the lightbulb in the mirror! This is the case when you directly see the Sun and also the Moon in the daytime.

As you can imagine, you need to angle the mirror quite a bit in order to catch the light from the Sun. This is why if you see the Moon during the day, and particularly if it is not very far from the Sun, then you only see a slither. On the other hand, if the Moon in the day sky is quite distant from the Sun, then you likely will see more of its illuminated surface - a half Moon.

Once a student told me that after taking our Solar System class he was much more curious about the Heavens and often looked up to pinpoint the Moon, the Cross and the planets. And we should look up more! We are sitting on a speck of dust in the large Universe. Surely we should pay more attention to what's out there.

Orsola De Marco is a professor in the Department of Physics and Astronomy at Macquarie University.

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